Interview with Matthew Brake of Pop Culture and Theology


This morning I had a conversation with Matthew Brake of the Pop Culture and Theology website. I hope you enjoy our video podcast. You can visit his website here.

ZYGON essay: “The Creation Account in Genesis and the Idea of the Artificial Humanoid

Terry Wright of the Sacred Writings blog made me aware of the following essay in ZYGON: Journal of Religion and Science:

“CREATORS AND CREATURES: THE CREATION ACCOUNT IN GENESIS AND THE IDEA OF THE ARTIFICIAL HUMANOID”
Gábor Ambrus
First published: 19 August 2019 https://doi.org/10.1111/zygo.12534

Abstract
Science fiction, this article argues, provides an imaginative domain which can offer a unique understanding of the interaction between science and religion. Such an interaction is particularly present in the idea of the artificial humanoid as brought to life in Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein and the recent television series Westworld. Both revolve around the theme of a moral relation between scientist creator and humanoid creature in accord with a norm that first took shape in the biblical account of God’s creation of the first human beings. At the same time, these works of fiction cast light on the contrast between the biblical account and the Mesopotamian myths of creation. In the manner of Frankenstein and Westworld, science fiction can integrate the perspective of science with that of the biblical tradition.

Interview with Mathias Clasen on a Biocultural Approach to the Appeal of Horror

A few years ago I broadened the academic lenses through which I study religion. This involved a biocultural approach which includes disciplines like social psychology, the cognitive science of religion, and evolutionary psychology. Since an important emphasis of this blog is to look at the intersection of religion, genre, and pop culture, I was pleased to stumble across Mathias Clasen’s book Why Horror Seduces (Oxford University Press, 2017), where the author draws upon the evolutionary social sciences in order to better understand why people enjoy horror. I was finally able to connect with Clasen so that we could discuss various facets of his research in this new field of study.

TheoFantastique: Mathias, welcome to TheoFantastique. How did a professor of literature and media come to an academic interest in the study of horror, and to adopt an evolutionary psychology framework for analysis of the genre?

Mathias Clasen: Well, my scholarly interest in horror predates my academic appointment. So does my interest in approaching horror from an evolutionary perspective. My interest in horror goes back to my late teens, when I developed a passion for the genre—in literature primarily, but also in cinema. When I enrolled as an English student at Aarhus University in 2001, I was able to pursue that passion in a scholarly way. There is so much horror and Gothic material even in canonical English-language literature. As an undergrad, I discovered evolutionary psychology and started wondering about its potential to shed light on the genre that fascinated me so. I wrote a non-fiction book about horror (in Danish), which came out in 2004. In that book, which I called Homo Timidus (“fearful man”), I made a preliminary and very rudimentary attempt at constructing an evolutionary theory of horror. I later realized that there was a dynamic and hospitable community of evolutionarily-minded literary scholars, who were in the habit of attending the annual conference of the Human Behavior and Evolution Society (HBES). In 2008, I attended my first HBES meeting in Philadelphia, where I met many of the pioneers of evolutionary literary study, such as Joseph Carroll, Judith Saunders, Jonathan Gottschall, and Brian Boyd. That conference was a formative experience for me. I went on to write a PhD thesis (“Monsters and Horror Stories: A Biocultural Approach”) on evolutionary horror theory and criticism. After postdoc and assistant professor employment, I made tenure in 2017. At that point, I’d been working with horror and evolution for more than a decade. So maybe the real question is, how did an evolutionarily-minded horror geek—somebody whose favorite author is Stephen King, who can quote at length from Dracula, and who secretly dreams of getting a tattoo of Darwin’s “I think”-doodle—ever make associate professor at an esteemed institution of higher learning?

TheoFantastique: Scholars have utilized a number of other approaches to horror, but few have used evolutionary psychology? Why do you think this is?

Mathias Clasen: I think there are several reasons for this. One is that most horror scholars know very little about the sciences of human nature. Today’s world of scholarship is hyper-specialized. Scholars spend years, decades, acquiring expertise in a very narrow subject. Many don’t feel the need to look across disciplinary boundaries—and if they do, they look to history, maybe, but not all the way to the social and natural sciences. I can understand why, but it’s a real shame, because there’s so much to be gained from responsible interdisciplinary horror scholarship in general, and from applying evolutionary psychology to horror in particular. So one reason is ignorance. Another is ideological resistance—to evolutionary psychology, to the notion of an evolved human nature, and to science itself. Many of those horror scholars who do know something about the sciences of human nature are deeply suspicious of them. They think evolutionary psychology means pseudo-scientific validation of the status quo, bigotry, genetic determinism, neo-eugenics, what have you. It’s a bizarre misunderstanding. Of course there are evolutionary psychologists who are bad people. Of course there are evolutionary psychologists who are fond of the status quo, or who are bigots, or determinists, or whatever. Of course there are evolutionary psychology papers that draw ideological conclusions from shaky empirical foundations and that can be used by bad people to defend their bad ideas. But the science itself is value-neutral (and researchers have shown that evolutionary psychologists tend to be just as left-leaning as the average social scientist). I do think that with time, it will become more and more difficult to dismiss evolutionary psychology as pseudo-science. It will become more and more outrageous to attempt to dislocate humans from their deep biological ancestry. The reason is, simply, the accumulating evidence for an adapted and evolved human nature. So, if horror scholars come to realize that evolutionary psychology can actually help them make sense of their subject, then we’ll see more horror scholars adopt an evolutionary approach. It’ll take time, though, because an evolutionary approach to horror is in conflict with several of the dominant paradigms in literary study, such as Freudian and post-Freudian psychoanalysis and the kind of historicist theory that is underpinned by blank slate-thinking.

TheoFantastique: Can you summarize evolutionary psychology and how you apply it to an understanding of the appeal of horror?

Mathias Clasen: Evolutionary psychology is an approach to the field of psychology—a meta-theory, if you will. Its aim is to make sense of human thinking, feeling, and behavior as products of an evolutionary process of natural (and sexual) selection. So, an evolutionary psychologist may take an interest in a particular human trait—language, say, or moral reasoning, or the emotion of fear—and try to figure out how and why that trait evolved over thousands of generations (by making hypotheses about function and then testing those hypotheses against data—genetic, behavioral, biometric, endocrine, comparative, archeological, paleoanthropological, neuroimaging, and so on). Mainstream evolutionary psychology has yet to make real sense of many of the things that scholars in the humanities are interested in—the imagination and fiction, for example. But those phenomena aren’t outside the scope of evolutionary investigation, and evolutionarily-minded scholars in the humanities are making rapid progress in understanding the function of the imagination and the crucial role storytelling has played in human evolution (as a tool for cognitive orientation, emotional and moral calibration, social bonding, and so on).

Likewise, the peculiar phenomenon of horror can be explained from an evolutionary perspective. At first glance it’s really weird that humans are attracted to a kind of entertainment that’s designed to make them feel bad, but of course horror doesn’t just elicit negative emotions like fear and dread and disgust (although the elicitation of those emotions is the genre’s distinguishing characteristic)—horror fans also expect to feel anticipation and joy and surprise when they seek out horror. One active hypothesis is that horror provides an imaginative context in which humans can engage with fear (and other negative emotions) outside of its biological niche. Fear and disgust evolved as defensive tools (to protect us from assault, accident, and infection), but through horror we can investigate the shapes and shades of those emotions in perfect safety. Human (like many other species) evolved to find pleasure in playful activities because such activities let them prepare for the threats of the natural and the social world. We learn about the world through play, including imaginative play, and horror specifically lets us learn about the dangers and horrors of the world. So, an evolutionary approach tells us about the evolved function of horror, but it can also inform interpretative critiques of specific works of horror, as I’ve tried to show in my work (for example on Dracula and King’s The Shining).

TheoFantastique: In Part 2 of your book you discuss “Evolutionary Perspectives on American Horror.” Can you share a few of the insights that you gained in your research about evolutionary psychology as it relates to examples from horror films?

Mathias Clasen: Yes, the book is in three parts—one theoretical, where I roll out the evolutionary theory of horror; one interpretive, where I offer evolutionary readings of a bunch of canonical American works of horror literature and cinema; and one cross-medial, where I expand the scope to include interactive horror media and make some guesses about the future of horror. The horror films that I discuss in the second part are Romero’s Night of the Living Dead, Spielberg’s Jaws, Carpenter’s Halloween, and Sánchez and Myrick’s The Blair Witch Project. (I originally wanted to include more films, such as Friedkin’s The Exorcist, Hooper’s Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and Goddard’s Cabin in the Woods, but I also wanted to keep the length of the book down, so those films will have to wait for another book.) My approach to those films is biocultural. I look at how the films are structured to tap into evolved psychological dispositions—universal facets of human nature—but also at how they are lodged within the cultural context of their production. To give an example, Romero’s classic zombie flick seems to consciously engage with topical concerns, such as a Vietnam-era anxiety over social collapse and conflict, but it also taps into a deeply conserved fear of being attacked by predatory creatures and a fear of being infested with a dangerous disease (Romero’s ghouls are predatory and infectious). That’s a potent cocktail. The point is, we can’t leave out either of these factors. Traditional horror critics have focused on the topical stuff, but that can’t explain why the zombie figure continues to thrill, disgust, and delight people. That’s where the “bio-” part of bioculturalism comes in.

TheoFantastique: Are you continuing this line of research in your own work, and what do you see as far as potential for further exploration in this area as it contributes to horror studies?

Mathias Clasen: I am. The evolutionary approach to horror is still wet behind the ears, although folks like Torben Grodal have made pioneering efforts in the field. In recent years I’ve divided my own efforts between theoretical and interpretive work, on the one hand, and empirical and quantitative work on the other. For example, I’m engaged in some really cool projects that investigate cognition and behavior among haunted house visitors, and I was part of a project to delineate the personality of horror fans. But there is so much still left to be done—theoretical refinement; empirical validation; hypothesis-testing; analysis and interpretation of specific horror works and subgenres; cross-cultural analysis; trans-media analysis, and so on. The field has a bright future, I think, and I fervently hope that other scholars will join the effort to make sense of horror from an evolutionary perspective. Now is the right time to join. The field is established enough so that there’s a solid foundation on which to build, but there’s still a heck of a lot of building needs to be done, so an ambitious and open-minded scholar has every opportunity to leave a mark on this particular edifice.

TheoFantastique: Mathias, thank you for making time in a busy academic schedule to discuss your book and your ongoing research. I look forward to watching the unfolding insights you and others discover.

Titles of Interest – Monsters of Film, Fiction, and Fable: The Cultural Link Between the Human and the Inhuman

Monsters of Film, Fiction, and Fable: The Cultural Link Between the Human and the Inhuman
Edited by Lisa Wenger Bro, Crystal O’Leary-Davidson, and Mary Ann Gareis
Cambridge Scholars Publishing, 2018

Monsters are a part of every society, and ours is no exception. They are deeply embedded in our history, our mythos, and our culture. However, treating them as simply a facet of childrens stories or escapist entertainment belittles their importance. When examined closely, we see that monsters have always represented the things we fear: that which is different, which we cant understand, which is dangerous, which is Other. But in many ways, monsters also represent our growing awareness of ourselves and our changing place in a continually shrinking world. Contemporary portrayals of the monstrous often have less to do with what we fear in others than with what we fear about ourselves, what we fear we might be capable of. The nineteen essays in this volume explore the place and function of the monstrous in a variety of medias tories and novels like Baums Oz books or Gibsons Neuromancer; television series and feature films like The Walking Dead or Edward Scissorhands; and myths and legends like Beowulf and The Loch Ness Monster in order to provide a closer understanding of not just who we are and who we have been, but also who we believe we can be for better or worse.

“The Sacred in Fantastic Fandom: Essays on the Intersection of Religion and Pop Culture” now available

The Sacred in Fantastic Fandom: Essays on the Intersection of Religion and Pop Culture (McFarland, 2019). This is another work of mine that was recently completed.  I am especially thankful for my co-editors who came on at my invitation to help finish the volume once an urgent personal issue upended my writing and editing schedule. They helped me get this volume over the finish line and I’m grateful.

To the casual observer, similarities between fan communities and religious believers are difficult to find. Religion is traditional, institutional, and serious; whereas fandom is contemporary, individualistic, and fun. Can the robes of nuns and priests be compared to cosplay outfits of Jedi Knights and anime characters? Can travelling to fan conventions be understood as pilgrimages to the shrines of saints?

These new essays investigate fan activities connected to books, film, and online games, such as Harry Potter-themed weddings, using The Hobbit as a sacred text, and taking on heroic roles in World of Warcraft. Young Muslim women cosplayers are brought into conversation with Chaos magicians who use pop culture tropes and characters. A range of canonical texts, such as Supernatural, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Sherlock—are examined in terms of the pleasure and enchantment of repeated viewing. Popular culture is revealed to be a fertile source of religious and spiritual creativity in the contemporary world.

Introduction: The Study of Fandom and Religion (Carole M. Cusack and Venetia Laura Delano Robertson) 1

Part 1. Sacred Reading: Analyzing the Text

Harry Potter and the Sacred Text: Fiction, Reading

and ­Meaning-Making (Carole M. Cusack )15

Doctrine and Fanon: George Lindbeck, Han’s Gun
and Sherlock’s Gay Wedding (Rhiannon Grant) 33

Supernatural’s Winchester Gospel: A Fantastic Midrash (Linda Howell) 49

“Seizing the Means of Perception”: The Use of Fiction in Chaos Magic and Occultural Fandom (Greg Conley) 66

Part 2. Sacred Viewing: Watching the Text

Cinephany, the Affective Experience of the Fan: A Typology (Marc ­Joly-Corcoran) 86

Experiencing the Sacred: The Hobbit as a Holy Text (Jyrki Korpua, Maria Ruotsalainen, Minna Siikilä-Laitila, Tanja Välisalo
and Irma Hirsjärvi) 102

Transformative Souls and Transformed Selves: Buffy, Angel
and the Daimonic Tale (James Reynolds) 119

Part 3. Sacred Play: Performing the Text

Until the End of the World: Fans as Messianic Heroes
in World of Warcraft (Jovi L. Geraci) 138

Muslim Women Cosplayers: Intersecting Religious, Cultural
and Fan Identities (Juli L. Gittinger) 154

Magical Matrimony: Romance and Enchantment in Harry Potter–Themed Weddings (Venetia Laura Delano Robertson) 169

Afterword: Fantastic Fan Conventions and Transformational
Festivals (John W. Morehead) 187

“The Paranormal and Popular Culture: A Postmodern Religious Landscape” now available

The Paranormal and Popular Culture: A Postmodern Religious Landscape (Routledge, 2019). This book makes a contribution to a number of academic disciplines, from the paranormal and religious studies to popular culture and media studies. As a hardbound academic volume it’s pricey, but perhaps you can secure one through university interlibrary loan, or a future paperback version. Here’s the description and table of contents:

Interest in preternatural and supernatural themes has revitalized the Gothic tale, renewed explorations of psychic powers and given rise to a host of social and religious movements based upon claims of the fantastical. And yet, in spite of this widespread enthusiasm, the academic world has been slow to study this development. This volume rectifies this gap in current scholarship by serving as an interdisciplinary overview of the relationship of the paranormal to the artefacts of mass media (e.g. novels, comic books, and films) as well as the cultural practices they inspire.

After an introduction analyzing the paranormal’s relationship to religion and entertainment, the book presents essays exploring its spiritual significance in a postmodern society; its (post)modern representation in literature and film; and its embodiment in a number of contemporary cultural practices. Contributors from a number of disciplines and cultural contexts address issues such as the shamanistic aspects of Batman and lesbianism in vampire mythology.

Covering many aspects of the paranormal and its effect on popular culture, this book is an important statement in the field. As such, it will be of utmost interest to scholars of religious studies as well as media, communication, and cultural studies.

Table of Contents

Introduction

Darryl Caterine

Part I: The Return of the Sacred

1 What Can the Paranormal in Popular Culture Tell Us About Our Relationship with the Sacred in Contemporary Society?

Madeleine Castro

2 Paranormal Medicine

Charles F. Emmons

3 The Right to a Narrative: Metamodernism, Paranormal Horror, and Agency in The Cabin in the Woods

Linda C. Ceriello and Greg Dember

4 The Dark Knight Rises: Shamanic Transformations in Gotham City

Jack Hunter

5 These Lovers Are Out of This World: Sex, Consent, and the Rhetoric of Conversion in Abductee Narratives

Elizabeth Lowry

6 The Mystery of Everything Out There: Bigfoot and Religion in the Twenty-First Century

Joshua Paddison

7 The Haunters and the Hunters: Popular Ghost Hunting and the Pursuit of Paranormal Experience

Leo Ruickbie

Part II: The Spell of Occulture

8 Religions of the Red Planet: Fin de Siècle Martian Romances

Christa Shusko

9 Paranormal Women: the “Sexual Revolution” and Female Sexuality in Hammer Studios’ Karnstein Trilogy

Jay Daniel Thompson

10 “We’re Ready to Believe You!” Spiritualism and the Interpretation of Paranormal Experience in Ghostbusters (1984)

Matthew N. Anderson and Collin L. Brown

11 Jesus and The Undead: Resurrected Bodies in Scripture and the Zombie Apocalypse

Kelly J. Murphy

12 Haunting the Ghost of Mark Twain

Ann M. Ryan

13 Accounts of High Strangeness: A Brazilian Perspective on the Paranormal and Popular Culture

Leonardo Martins

14 How the Necronomicon Became Real: The Ecology of a Legend

Joseph P. Laycock

15 Miranda Barbour and the Construction of a “Satanic Cult” Murder

Daniel Linford

16 “What Would You Do When…?”: Ostensive Play in the Zombie Apocalypse Narrative

Brent C. Augustus

17 Paranormal Beliefs, New Religious Movements and the New Age Spiritual Milieu

James R. Lewis and Sverre Andreas Fekjan

18 Cryptofiction! Science-Fiction and the Rise of Cryptozoology

Justin Mullis

19 When Did Fairies Get Wings?

Simon Young

20 A Contactee Canon: Gray Barker’s Saucerian Books

Gabriel McKee

Conclusion

John W. Morehead

Doug Cowan on “Magic, Monsters, and Make-Believe Heroes: How Myth and Religion Shape Fantasy Culture”


Doug Cowan, a frequent guest at TheoFantastique, returns to discuss his book Magic, Monsters, and Make-Believe Heroes: How Myth and Religion Shape Fantasy Culture (University of California Press, 2019). Enjoy the interview, and pick up a copy of this great book.

Holy Horror and the Bible: A Conversation with Steve Wiggins


Steve Wiggins is an independent scholar and author of Holy Horror: The Bible and Fear in Movies (McFarland, 2018). As the title indicates, Steve looks at how the Bible is incorporated into horror films. He and I discuss this and related topics in this conversation. From the book’s back cover:

What, exactly, makes us afraid? Is it monsters, gore, the unknown? Perhaps it’s a biblical sense of malice, lurking unnoticed in the corners of horror films. Holy Writ attempts to ward off aliens, ghosts, witches, psychopaths and demons, yet it often becomes a source of evil itself.

Titles of Interest – Primal Roots of Horror Cinema: Evolutionary Psychology and Narratives of Fear

This looks like an interesting volume. I’ve drawn attention to a similar one previously, Why Horror Seduces, that seeks to understand horror through evolutionary social psychology. See my prior interview with the author below, Carrol Fry, on his book Cinema of the Occult.

Primal Roots of Horror Cinema: Evolutionary Psychology and Narratives of Fear
Carrol L. Fry
McFarland, 2019

Why is horror in film and literature so popular? Why do viewers and readers enjoy feeling fearful? Experts in the fields of sociobiology and evolutionary psychology posit that behaviors from our ancestors that favored survival and adaptation still influence our actions, decisions and thoughts today.

The author, with input from a new generation of Darwinists, explores six primal narratives that recur in the horror genre. They are territoriality, tribalism, fear of genetic assimilation, mating rituals, fear of the predator, and distrust or fear of the Other.

History Channel’s “Project Blue Book”: Hynek, UFOs and fictionalized biography

As any regular reader of this blog is aware, I have had a long-time interest in paranormal phenomena, and UFOs in particular. In the 1970s I grew up with paranormal documentaries and pseudo-documentaries, and was particularly fascinated by UFOs. My brother had a sighting when we were kids, and I was a member of MUFON, one of the first UFO research organizations.

Because of this background I was excited to hear about the History Channel’s new series, Project Blue Book, which purports to tell the story of Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a seminal figure in UFO research, who created the nomenclature of UFO sightings and close encounters, which inspired Spielberg to produce Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Unfortunately, what I hoped for in this new series, an exploration of Hynek’s background as an astronomer, his early skepticism of UFOs as encounters something otherworldly and later change of perspective, and just what led to this change, as well as an exposition of some of the more interesting cases he worked on for the US government and beyond, are not to be found. Instead, we have a largely fictionalized program that is heavily influenced by The X-Files. Diabolique has a good article on this by Robert Skvarla, and a quote illustrates this unfortunate state of affairs:

The sin of Project Blue Book is that it takes an extraordinary life and turns it into something ordinary, another in a long line of paranoid thrillers in the vein of The X-Files (1993) and The Americans (2013). It makes the unbelievable circumstances of Hynek’s time on the real-life Air Force study Project Blue Book even more far-fetched by branching out into the realm of conspiracy theories. And it reduces a curious scientist into a fame-seeking magician. The rub of it is that in doing so, it also creates the most accurate depiction of our current national psychosis. Project Blue Book is a brain-sucking worm lodged in the zombified skull of America, incessantly jamming the fear button in what’s left of our parasite-eaten gray matter to provoke us into shadowboxing hallucinations of the Deep State and Russian spies.

Perhaps I was naive in my hopes in the era of paranormal reality television.

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